Daeron, on 19 September 2011 - 03:29 PM, said:
Do you realize the wolves are on the other side of the map, and Amumu took the golems? Also that Nunu had no idea that the golems were gone?
To answer the original question, you need to to play mindgames, knowing what you and the enemy is capable of and outplay your opponent utilizing that.
Coal's is a good example for this. Amumu knew he is vulnerable and Nunu will try to capitalize on that, thus he changed his route to fool Nunu.
Kind of like 'using Nunu's greatest power against him'.
that doesn't make sense.
amumu is at twin golems, and nunu is in amumu's jungle, but not where he can harass amumu.
that means he's in the enemy's blue side without anyone knowing he's there, making both wolf camp and blue camp vulnerable to steals (he probably couldn't get away with tanking blue as it's very risky, but just taking the adds+wolves would hinder amumu significantly)
he's not on the other side of the map.
coal said amumu was walking around in enemy jungle for a minute.
he could have easily stolen everything in that part of the jungle but the buff itself in that time.
and if he didn't he made a mistake.
even if he was afraid of being surprised by amumu he could at least take the big wolf + 1 with a smite+consume combo.
you can only stop that by
1) the jungler being there thus substituting a steal for harassment (which may be preferable, depending on the champ)
2) having your team guard the entrances to your jungle for longer than they normally would
3) being extremely lucky with your CV.
in amumu's case i'm pretty sure he'd come on top at a lvl 1 fight since nunu's lvl jungle spell - consume - doesn't deal damage to champs.
so a more cautious nunu would not risk running into amumu 1v1, rather he'd try to steal whatever mobs he can.
the best choice probably being Wraiths since junglers rarely start there, making it relatively safe.
with that taken into account i'd say nunu was actually lucky.
he wound up in a situation that was better than the one he was expected
he was probably hoping to steal blue, but it's hard to steal buffs from an experienced jungler.
he'd have to get close and Consume+instaSmite it.
not to mention he'd have to survive escaping the jungle after the steal.
a coordinated team (which i'm assuming this was) wouldn't let him get away with it.
stealing a few mobs and getting back into your jungle undetected is a much safer way about it.