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[Runepriest]

I'll get the ball rolling and keep it up to date with general consensus - Not in any particular order yet, Just alphabetical A tier is now in glorious actual power-level ranking!

S tier (Must bans or lose) - Rammus

A tier (Very strong, likely to see, pick any of these for your bans) - Poppy, Blitzcrank, Fizz, Kog'Maw (AP), Ryze, Karthus, Shaco (AD and AP), Skarner, Pantheon, Alistar, Soraka, Jax, Gangplank, Heimerdinger

B tier (Strong, very viable choices just not ban worthy) - Ahri, Akali, Evelynn, Ezreal, Garen, Gragas, Kassadin, Katarina, Kennen, Kog'Maw (DPS) LeBlanc, Leona, Lee Sin, Lux, Maokai, Master Yi, Miss Fortune, Nocturne, Olaf, Shyvana, Singed, Sion (AP), Teemo, Tryndamere, Twisted Fate (AD and AP), Twitch, Vayne, Wukong, Xin Zhao, Yorick, Zilean

C tier (Medium, unlikely to see but still viable) - Anivia, Ashe, Caitlyn, Cassiopeia, Corki, Dr. Mundo, Fiddlesticks, Galio, Graves, Irelia, Janna, Jarvan IV, Kayle, Mordekaiser, Morgana, Nidalee, Orianna, Renekton, Riven, Rumble, Shen, Sion (AD), Swain, Talon, Tristana, Trundle, Udyr, Urgot, Volibear, Warwick, Xerath

D tier (Weak, but still playable) - Amumu, Annie, Brand, Cho'Gath, Karma, Malphite, Malzahar, Nasus, Nunu, Sivir, Sona, Taric, Veigar, Vladimir

F tier (Do not play) - None right now, although some people are edging towards this

Edited by Runepriest, 27 December 2011 - 05:46 AM.

[Frish]

Ugh, another tier list.

• Maokai and Shaco A-tier? Hmm..
• MF rated above Tristana, Corki, Ashe, and Cait? Sure she's got that nifty passive, but I'd take the extra utility/mobility of the other ranged carries over it (if I picked a ranged carry on Dominion at all).
• I don't see why Irelia, Udyr, and Xin Zhao are rated so low.
• Warwick should not be D-tier at all.

I don't understand this whole fixation on tier lists but there's my initial reaction anyway.

[Runepriest]

Frish, on 03 October 2011 - 03:38 AM, said:

Ugh, another tier list.

• Maokai and Shaco A-tier? Hmm..
• MF rated above Tristana, Corki, Ashe, and Cait? Sure she's got that nifty passive, but I'd take the extra utility/mobility of the other ranged carries over it (if I picked a ranged carry on Dominion at all).
• I don't see why Irelia, Udyr, and Xin Zhao are rated so low.
• Warwick should not be D-tier at all.

I don't understand this whole fixation on tier lists but there's my initial reaction anyway.

Tier lists exist for every game, and are an easy way to let newer players know the state of the game.

Maokai: I've been playing lots of maokai here since he came out, I don't know if I'm just facing bad heimers but I've actually pushed Heimerdingers and everyone else consistently out of bot lane and taken the turret, forcing them to commit 2 people down low or lose their turret for a solid 20-30 seconds every 2 minutes.

Shaco: Seems strong enough, has strong mobility + boxes can really slow down reinforcements significantly

MF: Her ult allows her to get that mass AOE interrupt that the others lack from such a large range, and allows for a lot of damage. Cait I just find isn't as effective, maybe I've only seen bad ones. Ashe is just kinda meh here, the kiting isn't too strong with how squishy she is. Tristana? Haven't seen her enough, just kinda gut guess. Irelia the only one I've seen disconnected after 2 minutes, so hard to tell. Udyr I also haven't seen. WW I haven't seen considerably.

For reference I'm 31-16 in draft dominion

[ChainsawMonkey]

You missed Talon bro.

[Runepriest]

ChainsawMonkey, on 03 October 2011 - 03:52 AM, said:

You missed Talon bro.

Well, that's what I get for going off of the champ list on the website. And Riven, Skarner, and Wukong. Adding.

EDIT: Xin is up one tier

Edited by Runepriest, 03 October 2011 - 04:00 AM.

[Azure_Dauragon]

WW is definitely not D Tier, i play him a lot, and always do well, does not win games, but he is just tanky enough to survive lots of damage, and the life steal can be used to do some poke games with enemies, to gain time or completely kill them. Had a game where we were almost loosing, (63-4 or something) took top, went to their mid, neutralized it, rammus and garen came, full hp, killed rammus, and dueled Garen until he was low and ran off, won the game there.

TL;DR he is usually good at stalling, Mercs, Visage, Priscilla's blessing, sunfire, sanguine and kitae'es, for me.

Irelia is better, but not A tier, i would put her at a B, Poppy outclassed her like hell.

have a friend who is and awesome player, better than me, he was with Lee, and she was giving him a hard time, he was doing little damage and she was doing a bit too much, went with poppy nuked her xD

Rammus aint that op, sure he has speed, and can stall in an awesome fashion, but from what i seen from him it just seems he is on the same par as a Eve or something.

Alistar i dunno, Jax is plain awesome, i usually def towers against 2 or maybe 3, depending on skill, just by juking and stunning with some QW in there lol.

Shaco agree 100%, had one at top, full of Jack in the Box, went there with my trynda i think and a GP, we both died he lost no life... fear, tower damage, ulti to confuse, and his stealth thing to outlast tryndas ulti....


Cassiopeia, if well played, is a beast, 2 aoes to disable captures, plus her ulti, preety sick. Sion AD is also a beast xD

Talon is good, maybe B tier, wukong also, tanky-ish and good at stalling plus ulti. riven, i have seen some dominate others not so much. but i would be puting her at C maybe B.

Skarner, starts slow, gets good and annoying later on, so i woudl go with a C.

Udyr is fine there, he is fast and all that, but i only see them failing, dunno. sometimes it comes to enemy awareness, its hard to judge with so many variables

sorry for long post and grammar issues, not native language. post is more derived to the topic creator, if it is not closed, so he can take the info into consideration.

Teemo, Shaco and Heimer can go burn in hell, Shaco can go directly into the last level and be tortured till the end of time.....

karthus only ones i saw were somewhat trash lol

Master Yi i find to be good, he can go "Back Door" very easily, and get away like a "****" and can help a point somewhat fast, and when he arrives somewhat late he can clean up preety well, as people will be more focused on killing the less hp enemies. cant count how many times i killed an enemy trough baiting them. (e.g. get low health, irelia turns on friend, i go b just enough to atract her and she looses focus, usual bait, works like a charm in dom."

[Runepriest]

I'll bump WW up to C based off of the comments, now I do remember one game vs. a WW as maokai, his suppression was really good for diving.

[uk612]

Nasus and Veigar should be the only two in F I think. I hope no explanation is necessary.

[Zdragoon]

just my opinion, but...

Nasus I have found to be quite good actually (I didn't think would be because of his q farm, but he really was). Ranged aoe to stop capping, amazing slow and as debuff, great duelist, the only con i really feel is that is ult is on a longish cd, so maybe next time I will get a frozen heart. I was taking on 2 enemies a lot of times and killing one and driving the other away (it was an ad sion and a wukong).

Personally I think malz would be amazing (no proof yet) as it would be very easy to get his full combo off and does counter tanky dps to an extent... Brand isn't as bad, he's just not great.

Udyr i think should be a bit higher, he has an amazing kit and is pretty strong all in all (I have always been mid to top player with him)...

Irelia I thought was one of the best char's on dom...

All else seems decent...

[uk612]

Zdragoon, on 03 October 2011 - 05:04 AM, said:

just my opinion, but...

Nasus I have found to be quite good actually (I didn't think would be because of his q farm, but he really was). Ranged aoe to stop capping, amazing slow and as debuff, great duelist, the only con i really feel is that is ult is on a longish cd, so maybe next time I will get a frozen heart. I was taking on 2 enemies a lot of times and killing one and driving the other away (it was an ad sion and a wukong).

I understand where you're coming from, just pointing out that both Nasus and Veigar cannot be played to their fullest in, and that there will probably be better choices.

[Urscythe]

Runepriest, on 03 October 2011 - 02:50 AM, said:

I'll get the ball rolling and keep it up to date with general consensus - Not in any particular order yet, Just alphabetical

S tier (Must bans or lose) - Rammus

A tier (Very strong, likely to see, pick any of these for your bans) - Akali, Alistar, Blitzcrank, Gangplank, Heimerdinger, Jax, Karthus, Maokai, Pantheon, Poppy, Shaco (AD and AP), Singed,

B tier (Strong, very viable choices just not ban worthy) - Evelynn, Ezreal, Garen, Gragas, Kassadin, Katarina, Kennen, Kog'Maw, LeBlanc, Lee Sin, Lux, Master Yi, Miss Fortune, Nocturne, Olaf, Ryze, Sion (AP), Soraka, Teemo, Tryndamere, Twisted Fate (AD and AP), Vayne, Wukong, Xin Zhao, Yorick, Zilean

C tier (Medium, unlikely to see but still viable) - Anivia, Ashe, Caitlyn, Cassiopeia, Corki, Dr. Mundo, Fiddlesticks, Galio, Irelia, Janna, Jarvan IV, Kayle, Mordekaiser, Morgana, Nidalee, Orianna, Renekton, Riven, Rumble, Shen, Sion (AD), Swain, Talon, Tristana, Trundle, Twitch, Udyr, Urgot, Warwick

D tier (Weak, but still playable) - Amumu, Annie, Brand, Cho'Gath, Karma, Leona, Malphite, Malzahar, Nasus, Nunu, Sivir, Skarner, Sona, Taric, Veigar, Vladimir

F tier (Do not play) - None yet, too chaotic to tell if anyone is utter crap here.

Poppy is S tier if you know how to play her. Horribly overpowered, but only if you know how to play her. Karthus is also S tier for sure. Global-range interrupt, tons of AOE, and his passive further disrupts capture attempts. Anchor Karthus running Revive is the best defender in the game, easily. Olaf should be A tier - not quite as easy to play as Jax, but he's potentially just as strong. True damage can three-shot people early on and he becomes an atmog's monster late game that's immune to CC.

Definitely agree with the rest of A tier. I'd probably put Jax ahead of Blitzcrank, but that's really just small change at that point.

Ezreal is the best ranged AD. Vayne is definitely #2. I think you're overestimated Eve, but whatever. Ree Sin should probably be closer to A tier. I haven't seen good things out of Lux, but I've also only seen her a couple times.

Cass is definitely A tier material; tons of burst, AOE, and good mobility with Noxious Blast. Mundo is probably B tier material; lots of regen, lots of speed, and an absolutely enormous amount of free AD makes him dangerous early on and impossible to kill later on. I'd probably call Galio B tier material. Built as tanky AP, he's extremely hard to kill (200+ armor and MR with Bulwark up), bursts reasonably well, and his ult is still a game-changer. He can fill a lot of the roles Maokai usually fills, just not quite as well (Bulwark can be used for some clutch saves, though.)

I'd probably feel safe going ahead and throwing Amumu and Taric into F tier - they're both really bad in Dom. Cho'gath should at least be C if not B - he can do well as a bot anchor since he has tons of AOE and mana isn't much of an issue in Dom.

[iEnjoy]

I honestly feel like banning alistar and rammus every match would make my life a whole heck of a lot easier on the crystal scar.

But as for the other champions, some excel at different roles than others.

As for roles, I believe that the tanky AP/Assassins are the strong suits in dominion.

But there still remains so many variables, that's just my humble opinion.



PS> First post. Been at league for a long time and have been following the forums for a bit, too. Figured I might as well add my 2 cents.

[Meph]

Rammus is horribly overrated, only thing hes good for is for capping top at the start. And even that he cant do if the enemy ghosts there.

[thefriendlyorc]

Xin and lee in B tier? xDDDD theres a reason they are calling him Win Zhao. J4 should at least be B tier. He gets beastly.

[Urscythe]

Meph, on 03 October 2011 - 06:33 AM, said:

Rammus is horribly overrated, only thing hes good for is for capping top at the start. And even that he cant do if the enemy ghosts there.

In a word, "no."

He has excellent mobility. Tremor causes a lot of damage to everything nearby and can't be stopped - it covers an entire point. Defensive Ball Curl gives him tons of survivability. His taunt lasts the full 3 seconds since very few people buy Tenacity in Dom.

There's many reasons Rammus is considered probably THE best pick for Dominion (at least equal with Karthus, debatable which one is worse.) He's also a direct counter-pick to AD-heavy/bruiser teams because stacking Armor on him is effective as hell (much like Galio is a good pick vs AP-heavy teams.) It's not that Rammus is fast, it's that he's fast AND has a lot of other good things to recommend him. He can cross the map quickly with Powerball to stop the enemy team from neutralizing a point, and then pop Tremor and Defensive Ball Curl to tank the fuck out of everything there until reinforcements can arrive (or until his teammates take another point instead.) Even pushing in with a large creep wave with a megacreep isn't very effective because Tremor will rapidly kill them all without even requiring Rammus to attack them directly (so he can continue interrupting channels.)

TFO, I love your fuckin avatar.