Coal doing them rankeds - 2nd may last update! Massive winning spree and almost 1700 elo!
Hi, I’m Coal and my mouth is bigger than it’s actually good for me.
I never really gave a rat’s ass about ranked. Derping around in 1400 ranked while my normal elo allowed me to regularly play versus good players (a lot of 1700 – 2300s, I encounter famous players on a semi regular basis) seemed like a waste of time. The possibility to play well, but still pick wacky things and to play with premades of any size in normals was just too much fun to skip.
I played to 1500 two times only to realise I don’t give a fuck and just to decay to 1400 elo again, which in hindsight is quite the waste (lost about 200 to decay I think, I have seen people with my win/loss ratio having 1800 elo).
Coming back from a long break and playing a lot of dota2 made me realise I really wanted to learn to jungle (as roaming around is way more common in that game and I’m not too much of a fan of laning). Also I finally got myself to grind some elo, because I have to back that big fucking mouth up.
A real life friend of mine was stuck at 1200 elo after 400 games (never reaching higher than almost 1500 elo I think). I told him to man the fuck up and he grinded himself to 1500. Perfect. Lets duo.
My target: get to 1900, gain a better overview of the game, learn to jungle (while not ignoring my ability to lane decently) and gain a greater understanding of how to tackle objectives and understand what happens map wide. I also noticed that my ability to judge fights took a big hit from taking such a big break, another point to improve to either old levels or better. While doing it I try to explain to my friend why I do the things to do, which also help me gain a bigger understanding of why my and his actions are right or wrong.
Today I spoke with another LC member (Daeron, u suck) about someone who made a graph about his elo in- and decrease, as an experiment I want to do the same and also add whatever I have learned and what I have to improve.
I will keep check of my own rating, learning moments and issues. I will compile a graph after I reached 1900 (or another point if I get tired of this)
Current ELO: 1712 - 29 wins | 10 losses
games 1 - 5
Spoiler
Game 1: Nautilus jungle [2|3|2?] Loss -?? Elo = 1540 ish
Problems to solve:Understanding the terror that is jungle Alistar on this elo bracket. Counter with a faster jungler (at least early) when I suspect Alistar is the jungler. Try to countergank at any given moment, because team mates are too reckless to play safe in the early game, Alistar seems fail proof around this elo, people make horrible decisions and die in even worse ways. Game was unsalvageable after a short while, every lane snowballed way too hard. Mute people who blame me that they can’t play safe, it isn’t helping me at all, especially if I already realised my own shortcomings of helping them suck less. Yes I failed, but 3 lanes losing hardcore and not seeing Alistar walking past wards isn’t going to help my cause either.
Good things I did and what I need to continue doing: Nothing. Sucked. Maybe realise that shit games happen and get over it.
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Game 2: Udyr jungle [4|1|15?] Win +?? elo = 1560 ish
Problems to solve: Trying to learn whether I should help my crying toplaner more or keep focussing on getting achievements botlane (we got quite some kills bottomlane, our Graves was strong and we also got multiple dragons). Our midlaner totally ignored my existence in all cases, no support at all in my own jungle, but luckily I was playing Phoenix Udyr, so I could totally salvage the far from optimal start.
Good things I did and what I need to continue doing: I don’t remember this game too well. I stunned shit and we won.
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Game 3: Alistar jungle [3|5|25?] Win +?? elo = 1580 ish
Problems to solve: People seem to be able to carry and wreck shit when someone is able to guide them at this elo. If I didn’t gank they were bound to lose, so I had to stay aggressive and prioritize ganking over farming in the jungle. Lucky for me I was playing Alistar so that was more than enough. I got some good kills early and my team seemed to be able to farm up quite well, although every one of them managed to lose in 1 v 1 (or 2v2) situations if I didn’t constantly gank their lanes.
Enemy MF got an early lead somehow but had a terrible item build (BT + GA) so our Graves could easily out outdeeps her. Our midlane Kassadin seemed quite clueless, started blue crystal -> catalyst -> dorans shield (really?).
Hold hands hold hands hold hands. We lost some early teamfights but the ability to get both Kassadin and Graves fed later salvaged the game. Ping the shit out of everything.
Good things I did and what I need to continue doing: Always be on top of things, get dragons, give the buffs to my allies, and support their lanes, countergank the enemy jungler. Like I said before, I really need to hold hands here, so my team can blow the enemy apart.
On a certain moment I had already used my headbutt when I saw the enemy galio in position for a good ulti, managed to predict his ult timing perfectly and land pulverize on the EXACT moment he ulted (man I felt godlike), knocking him out of the ulti with a minimum of damage done to my team. I think this was the teamfight our Grave scored a quadra, right after that was when I saw the enemy Shen dash away -> flash pulverize and hold my hands up in the air while our Graves scores his penta. Man this feels good.
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Game 4: Ryze mid [6|1|15?] Win +?? elo = 1598
Problems to solve: So I need to take the midlane. Ok! I played quite some Ryze in the past and he is a strong pick, so it shouldn’t be too much of a problem. Sadly I had quite some issues farming up well with my mana pool as the enemy Galio managed to get a real quick chalice and pushed the shit out of my lane. I could farm a bit under my own tower but I was always behind him in farm. Maybe next time pick a better wave clearer versus a Galio.
My duopartner raped bot and got real fed thanks to our Blitz which was a real hero. Man those pulls. Sadly my friend got overconfident on some times and died. Really have to tell him when to back off. He was trying to kill someone under their tower and I told him to back off, he didn’t and I stayed. We died there which was unnecessary, should have either left him to die or left to force him to leave too. Me giving away a rampage bounty isn’t good.
Good things I did and what I need to continue doing: I hate this retarded mentality of ‘dont focus the tank’ when that tank is the closest thing to your carry. Of course you hit the squishy when you are in position. But our carry being more fed than theirs is more than enough reason to protect her (Ashe) from whatever is closest to her, if this is the thing she is hitting it is the thing I am hitting and luckily the thing Blitz was hitting. There is no need for me to run through their lines to kill the Caitlyn which was way behind Ashe when I can just support Ashe in wrecking shit while protecting her from all the tanky enemies.
Our Irelia lost her lane versus Riven really hard (partly due to a DC) and our jungle lee was real suicidal, so they weren't of too much help. Sometimes you have to realize that you’re not going to be the MVP, even if you feel that you are better than your opponents, just protect the person who is actually carrying the shit out of you.
Having good ward coverage and rushing to other lanes to countergank the enemy jungler works out wonderful too.
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Game 5: Mundo Jungle [4|2|13] Win +16 elo = 1614
Problems to solve: Mundo ain’t immortal, remind myself I can actually die.
Good things I did and what I need to continue doing: After killing Lee in his jungle we stole his red, which I donated to our top Teemo. Went with him top and killed Warwick level 1, which then had to deal with a first blood + red buff Teemo. Lane won. Went to blue and donated it to Morgana. Farmed the rest of the jungle and ganked bot which was easily won. Cakewalk game. Have to experiment a little more with donating early buffs, as it seems a huge advantage to my laners which might not be always that good, especially on junglers like Mundo which can survive pretty well with a little dent in their early jungling.
I don't think that Teemo reads this, but if you do, you are a fucking trooper man.
Also, my cleaver hitrate is over 9000.
Mundo is retardedly OP and I need to abuse the heck out of him while I still can.
games 6 - 10
Spoiler
Game 6: Mundo jungle [3|1|10] Win +17 elo = 1631
Problems to solve: This game seemed like a cakewalk too. Enemies confused and both picked supports (4th and 5th pick), then both last second switched to carry. Good luck farming brobros. Again both bot and toplane seemed to have trouble not dying when I didn’t gank (although granted, they got enough kills themselves too). Our mid LeBlanc went legendary, at least someone I could really rely on.
More than ever I noticed the problem on this elo though. People fuck up all the time. Not that they can’t kill shit, but they seem to not understand how to prioritize objectives over random shit and jungle camps. Pings and chat helped a lot, hold hands again. My duo partner commented that I should say pointers I give to him more in skype to the whole team in chat, to try to take even more of a leading role. Problem with this elo is that the ability to throw seems to be big because of bad priorities, people die randomly and decent opponents would be able to easily turn it around, gladly my teams inability to keep the pressure seems to be countered by the enemy team infighting and raging.
Good things I did and what I need to continue doing: CLEAVERS CLEAVERS CLEAVERS CLEAVERS CLEAVERS. Last hitting blind monks with flash + cleaver is legit as fuck.
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Game 7: Udyr jungle [2|0|1] Win +15 elo = 1646
Mercury's Treads - Philosopher Stone - Heart of Gold - Kindlegem
Problems to solve: Stop trying to gank without Red on Udyr versus a Warwick, how much my toplaner cries, I can't chase that asshole when my allies low HP keeps his MS high.
Good things I did and what I need to continue doing: I really don't know. Felt kinda useless. First ranked game where I legitimately that I sort of got carried, but our botlane just raped theirs too hard. Enemies flaming in all chat, 20 minute surrender. Got 2 dragons for us, I guess that counts, also kited the shit out of the Warwick and Ryze who were chasing our low HP Graves. Not really the most enjoyable kind of game, but I don't mind some free elo.
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Game 8: Alistar jungle [6|0|15] Win +18 elo = 1664
Mercury's Treads - Philosopher Stone - Heart of Gold - Frozen Heart
Problems to solve: I seriously believe that games can’t get more flawless than these.
Good things I did and what I need to continue doing: Clearing wolves and blue and then ganking through the enemy jungle (we were purple so I was heading botlane) seems to be something people still don’t expect. I arrived bottom lane only to notice the enemy Xin being there, we made quick work of all three of them, getting both the first blood for our team and only losing one (sadly our Ashe). Went back right away since I could instabuy my philostone. Proceed to clear the jungle, ganked other lanes, smashed Xin again, instabuy Heart of Gold a few minutes later. Game went too good.
People also don’t seem to realize I can easily dive them even pre level 6 when they recall next to their tower. I was 4th pick and most players were 1700 or even close to 1800 but still don’t seem to understand the abilities of some champions.
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Game 9: Mundo jungle [4|2|13] Win +15 elo = 1679
Mercury's Treads - Heart of gold - Spirit Visage - Frozen mallet - Chain Vest - Rejuvenation Bead
Problems to solve: We invaded the enemy jungle and when I saw the opponents I took a point in cleavers instead of burning agony (I never take a point prior to that) and then proceed to miss both shots I had. Made my own jungling harder than it should be. I then proceed to clear the jungle and missing ganks because they either went back, killed or died right before I arrived. It’s hard to feel useful like that, in those cases I should just ignore the whining and keep farming my own jungle for a good mid game because most ganks early were no go.
Good things I did and what I need to continue doing: Taking opportunities to do dragon right away. Also realize the potential to snowball when you countergank and take down more than you lose, we did it twice in a row, did Baron and sealed the deal. Midgame was a massive success because of this.
Eight win streak yeah!
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Game 10: Mundo jungle [4|1|12] Win +17 elo = 1697
Mercury's Treads - Heart of gold - Spirit Visage - Frozen mallet – Randuin’s Omen – Chain Vest - Oracles
Problems to solve: Keep farming. I notice in a lot of games that even though I jungle I still am pretty underfarmed. I see way more warding at this level so Oracles are a big plus on a jungler. Removing sight from enemies is key to victory. Also make sure to kill the enemy oracle bearer (yet don’t take too many risks doing so.)
Good things I did and what I need to continue doing: Play hyper aggressive. Counter the enemy jungler, ward their buffs and take them. Time everything, dragon, baron. Protect the carry, how bad they are, protect them.
Even after his nerf Mundo seems so solid, need to keep abusing him.
Game 11
Spoiler
Game 11: Mundo jungle [3|0|8] Win +15 elo = 1712
Mercury's Treads - Heart of gold - Spirit Visage - Frozen mallet - Oracle
Problems to solve: IGNORE ALL THE WHINERS! I mean, I feel bad for the Poppy who counter picked herself against Olaf and got her butt stomped. Still, doing the fights in mid and getting multikills with the team, giving the buffs and taking the dragons is so much important. I wished people would understand that theres more to junglers than babysitting their lanes.
Good things I did and what I need to continue doing: Raping the shit out of everything together with Taric and Cassiopeia. Still keeping up with buying oracles and clearing all the wards. Getting dragons, towers, baron. Just snowball the game generally and getting a win out of it is great. See enemies in my jungle? NP, I take their buffs instead.
Mundo so broken, I’m currently at 6 to 0 (so 100% winrate) with 31 8 67 total stats and still raping face.
Pretty glad with how this is going. Finally reached 1700 with a 10 win streak. Yay me.
My original idea was to make an average graph for bronze/silver/gold/platinum players as they progress out of the 1200s. But you'd need a fuckload of people willing to participate for that.
TwilightPrince, on 28 April 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:
Maybe you should just turn this entire thread for everyone to make "graphs" and keep track of their rating and their learning moments and stuff.
Assuming other people around here actually care about ranked...
It would and it would definitely help people to get better, but I play too few rankeds to care (my last ranked was only there to stop the elo decay ^^)
People at 1500 elo aren't really 'bad', the main difference I notice between them and 1700s I encounter in normals and my friends is that they have a lesser awareness of objectives and how to counter enemy ganks.
HOW YOU DARE TO SAY THAT MUNDO IS NOT IMMORTAL? but good luck to you sir i stopped playing ranked long time ago cause i decided i want to play just for fun and i dont want to acomplish anything in this game. But when i play'd solo q i didnt rly care about loses becouse there are many more games when you can do something to win that games when you cant do anything even if you're #1 eu player. I found out that players at 1500-1600 elo are not losing cause they are bad, Mostly its becouse they cant take advantage of enemy mistakes. The play their game and dont adapt to the enemy.
So, until this thread finds a purpose in the whole "sharing" and "graphs" department I've decided I'll do my own sort of diary, but of course on the wiki:
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