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[WebStuckcom]

I keep reading about a battle theory section that lets you see how much damage a champion produces with different builds. For some reason, I can't seem to find that area. I have built a champion on this website but still can't find stats such as how much damage they would do per second. Could someone tell me how to find this battle theory section?

Thanks!

[Daeron]

http://leaguecraft.com/champions/

(click on builder)

[WebStuckcom]

Yeah, and I create a character but it doesn't tell me DPS.

[Daeron]

Well maybe it was removed at some point then. But I never really found it useful anyway. You can judge your damage output much more accurately by yourself with some common sense.

[WebStuckcom]

Well, maybe you could give me some insight into that because I find it a bit confusing. I am not sure of the best order to buy attack speed, attack damage, critical chance to do the most damage possible. For example, at the very beginning of the game I usually buy a dagger or long sword but I don't know which actually benefits me more at that point.

[Daeron]

Well, assuming we are talking about AD carries, you want to get some AD first to help you with last hitting/lane management and poking. You will not autoattack anything for extended periods of time. Your damaging abilities most likely scale off of AD, which is a major damage source early as the DPS from your autoattacks is not there yet without items. Depending on how much harassment you take and whether you have a healer to reverse it you might want some life steal. Due to their cost effectiveness you will end up purchasing two (maybe three if you have a rough time) Doran's Blades early (which also grant a nice boost for you health pool).

Although it's situation dependent, you probably want to upgrade your boots (which you should start with, by the way) as well at the same time. With a few Doran's Blades and Berserker's Greaves you are really close to the optimal AD/AS ratio with good mobility and sustainability to pull yourself through the early laning phase.

The next purchase will be a B.F.Sword which is going to be upgraded into either an Infinity Edge or a Bloodthirster. The former is flat out better in terms of DPS, but doesn't help with keeping yourself alive. This can be mostly solved by purchasing a Vampiric Scepter (and with the previous Doran's Blades still sitting in your inventory) if needed, although IE is much more expensive already. Bloodthirster can give a much more significant boost in lifesteal, but must be farmed up first and half the stacks can be lost if you die. On the other hand it is cheaper and if you happen to have abilities which scale very well with AD, might be worth it. It's all about tradeoffs. If you believe you won't have problems staying alive, IE is usually better.

Get a Zeal to once again boost your mobility and balance out your AD/AS ratio after finishing your first big AD item. The critical strike chance synchronizes well with IE. After this item, your possibilities really branch off. Champions with AD heavy abilities and ways to receive AS boost might choose to finish their second big AD item (whichever you haven't built first). Those who rely on kiting and require additional AS will upgrade the Zeal into a Phantom Dancer. Alternatively, if they face a very high amount of armor Last Whisper can help a lot.

Obviously this is just the general build order, it can and should be modified based on the actual situation (champion-specific builds, countering different enemies etc). One general rule I can give you on balancing AD/AS is that it is generally better to attack a bit slower but hit more powerful than attack really fast but don't pack any punch at all. Chances are you will have to constantly reposition yourself after a few successfull hits, which favors the former build.

Edited by Daeron, 27 July 2012 - 02:23 AM.

[Feanor]

The optimized build for AD carries is Berserker's Graves > Infinity Edge (get a Vampiric Scepter before you finish it) > Phantom Dancer > Last Whisper (a fully stacked Bloodthirster is only better against targets with less than ~100 armor. That's the core for any AD carry. After that it's usually a Bloodthirster and a Guardian Angel.