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[Phwool]

Does scepter's slow work with despair?
Thanks

[Clythez]

Yes it does, 15% as it is an aoe spell

[sleepypig]

Really? I read somewhere that it doesn't work for toggles or passives (such as Chogath's Vorpal Strike). It was a few patches back though, so did they change it?

[Pieceofcandy]

Yeah it works with Amumu's Dispair and with Singed's Poison. I don't think Cho's spikes are affected though, no idea why.

[Warrior Osprey]

Cho's spikes might be physical damage, but I'd need to check. The quickest way is going in with no armor/magic penetration and hitting the mana golem, because magic should deal 23% bonus damage. I don't like Cho enough to test it, even though it'd only take 3 minutes. >.>

[sleepypig]

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Cho'gath's physical attacks launch spines which deal 20 / 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 (+0.2 per ability power) magic damage to a line in front of him.

That's the description that is up on the Leaguecraft site about his ability. So yes, it is magic damage. So I guess Rylai's only doesn't work on passives? It doesn't work on Udyr's phoenix or Jax's ult does it?

[Pieceofcandy]

It does, but Cho's spikes were an exception. Someone brought it up to RIOT but they didn't change anything. Let me see if I can dig up the thread.

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Found it.

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We have put careful consideration into where we thought Rylai's should proc.

Vorpal Spikes and Toxic Shot do not, as the damage they apply does not come through a casted spell.

While yes it would be OK for Toxic Shot to proc Rylai's Scepter, it would not be OK for Teemo's (an otherwise very similar passive) to do so, for balance reasons. And we have to be consistent.

Tibbers does apply the slow because the AoE aura did come from a cast (even though it's attached to the bear, you had to cast the spell to get it in the first place).

Hopefully this clarifies things for you guys.

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[rmandraque]

When i used to play amumu alot, i would always get rylays. Nobody can escape despair.